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#Scamfrog
April 8, 2011, 12:02 pm
Filed under: Big Brother, Camfrog, fraud, phishing, society | Tags: , ,

After paltalk aquired camfrog a few month before , camfrog was target from massive DDOS attacks (blog entry removed from blog.camfrog.com) No,  not the regular roomattacks, that has been going on for years, this attack  prevent users from  login for 5 days , Camfrogs excuse “Software updates” turned into a reward of  $10,000 to find the attacker.

Source: camfrog-community.com

 

I think it’s time to let you know that the repeated problems Camfrog has been experiencing over the past several weeks are due to a large denial of service attack against our network.  We have a lot of experience fighting off attacks like this over the years and we have a system in place to make sure an attack will not disrupt our network, but for some reason this time we are having more trouble than usual.

We care about the uptime of Camfrog more than anything and any downtime actually makes me feel physically sick, so please don’t think we are not doing everything in our power to keep Camfrog online.  Our team has a huge amount of experience with situations like this and we will prevail.

At this time we think we know who is responsible for the attack and we are working with law enforcement to make sure they are prosecuted in their country to the fullest extent of the law, however we are also offering a $10,000 USD reward to the first single most important tip that leads to their arrest and successful prosecution.  If you have any tips please make the subject “DDOS Tip” and email it to our helpdesk.

Thanks for your support.
Posted on Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:05:26 +0000 at http://blog.camfrog.com/2011/03/19/denia…n-camfrog/ Comments: http://blog.camfrog.com/2011/03/19/denia…/#comments

But this wasnt really my concern when i wanted to write something about camfrog because we all know that customers get ripped off for long time and they are Breaking their own TOS and lying about their “Online User counter” .

A friend pointed me to a site called chat-security.com , own by Richard Trudel whitch is used to report possible sexual offender via a screencapture tool. Camfrog has a business relation with this company/site/person ,  but it seems there is phishing/fraud involved so i digged a bit deeper and found some interesting facts  on http://www.camfrog-community.com , complainsboard and Facebook.

Did you ever asked yourself what happend with thousants of pictures of possible sexual offenders that went into a Database of a company whitch claimed to work together with law enforement and they DON´T ?.

What could happen when these information:

Picture, Nickname, Ip adress is connencted with the credidcard information ?

Why does a camfrog/camshare tolerate, that this site points to a login whitch claims to be the camfrog  roomowner/operator login , whitch never exist ?

Source : camfrogcommuninity

UPDATE 04.09.2011:

they removed the page at camfrog.info

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

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As you see on the above Screenshots, chat-security claims to work with the duch
goverment, but they dont.

I used to work for camfrog as an admin for a considerable length of time and I have witnessed many things that occur that are illegal. And yes there are a large numbers of pedophiles that cruise the rooms looking for underage young people.
They often change their adult profiles to a teen to gain access to teenagers. Camfrogs security measures are a complete failure. Bans are easily circumvented and really do nothing to address the problem. Emails for help are either bounced or not answered. In rooms that are G rated there is a constant stream of men masturbating on webcam. And camfrog room owners employ 18 year old girls to admin these rooms exposing them to sexual abuse. Which is paramount to sexual grooming. I was thoroughly disgusted by the dishonesty and indecency by camfrog and its staff and clients.

Source

 

[Image: camshare.png]

[Image: camshare003.png]

 

I think I might have a clue to why Camshare LLC is being used to Power Camfrog software and clients. I am just human and guessing here that Camshare.com LLC is claiming to be one owner (Manager) cause he/she doesn’t want to pay standard Corporate taxes in all the money he/she makes in the USA and to its members (shareholders) for the sales purchased threw Cleverbridge.com from all of Camfrog.com sales. So Camfrog.com is using Camshare LLC company name as a stepping ladder to certain advantages that defeat higher USA taxes.

The photo above shows us that Camshare LLC bears no liability for any damages resulting from the use of the Camfrog software.

This refund from a duped customer made me currious, why comes the money from cleverbridge and why is it in dutch ?

Quote:cleverbridge AG heeft naar u overgemaakt: €42,34 EUR
Transactiereferentie: 1BP54943248109520
Beste Bas van de leur,

cleverbridge AG heeft een bedrag van €42,34 EUR naar u overgemaakt.

Opmerking van afzender, cleverbridge AG:
Refund for your purchase Nr. 1341977

 

http://www.cleverbridge.com/225/purl-VideoChatPro

http://www.cleverbridge.com/?scope=about…management

Camfrog,Camshare,Cleverbridge seem to have close ties to Craig Vodnik.

Craig Vodnik also worked for Digital River back in April 2004.
http://www.digitalriver.com

Craig Vodnik and his past jobs
http://www.linkedin.com/in/craigvodnik

Craig Vodnik also runs as Admin on the following websites

Camfrog-Blog http://blog.camfrog.com
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Camfrog
Twitter http://twitter.com/CraigVodnik

So, what does he have in common with all these Businesses? Vice President, Manager with DOUBLE the income right? So Craig Vodnik seems to be quit active in Money making Operations?

Camfrog.com
Craig Vodnik mentions Camfrog and Facebook 2nd reply in comments
http://www.buildingkeystones.com/2011/01…-strategy/

Camshare.com
Craig Vodnik writes here the 6th reply in comments
http://www.twistimage.com/blog/archives/…ual-goods/

Cleverbridge.com
http://www.cleverbridge.com/managementfoundingteam.html
http://twitter.com/CraigVodnik/cleverbridge-clients

Craig Vodnik used to fly to Germany giving him the opportunity of cleverbridge AG which is associated to Camshare LLC.

Written here the 6th paragraph down
http://www.buildingkeystones.com/about/craig-vodnik/

This picture shows Cleverbridge/Camshare LLC are Partnership

[Image: camshare005.png]

Unauthorized charges
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcleverbridgenet-koeln-de-c222734.html

UNAUTHORIZED BANK WITHDRAW
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcleverbridgenet-koeln-de-c222652.html

Unauthorized withdraws from my account
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcleverbridgenet-koeln-de-c223497.html

Take money without my authorization
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcleverbridgenet-koeln-de-c225625.html

Scam Phishing
http://www.millersmiles.co.uk/report/17856
False charging me
http://www.scamchecker.com/content/cleverbridge,net-koeln

Ripoff debited an account 4 times
http://www.ripoffreport.com/computer-software/ashampoo-cleverbridg/ashampoo-cleverbridge-ripoff-z65c9.htm

Is Avira or Cleverbridge a scam
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=93225

Ripped off procodes
http://www.ripoffreport.com/internet-services/camfrog-camshare-llc/camfrog-camshare-llc-ripped-of-77e2g.htm

Scams, Frauds, Reviews And Complaints
http://www.ripoffreport.com/directory/Camfrog-Camshare.aspx

 

Von: Support Team <web@camfrog.com>
Datum: 24. September 2010 14:36:34 MESZ
An: marc@let.de
Kopie: helpdesk <helpdesk@camfrog.com>
Betreff: Facebook page link

Marc,

I blocked you from our Facebook page because you linked to a false
website post that said we wrote an email that says we give certain
rooms favoritism and that we use foul language in our helpdesk emails.

I have always worked hard to give you support on our Facebook page and
on Camfrog and on our Blog, but I can’t allow you to post links that
are obviously false like that.

I work the helpdesk sometimes and I would never write something like
that with foul language or give favoritism.  It’s really unfair to
make users think we would ever act that way.  I always try to be fair
to everyone and I have always tried to quickly help you when you ever
had a problem.

Thanks, Craig

 

Wasnt nice to ban me 1 day before my birthday from camfrog/facebook craig 😛

UPDATE

hackCamfrog is a keylogger developed in Visual Basic 2008. Like other keyloggers, hackCamfrog have the same work, work to catch every key pressed on victim’s keyboard, but by adding some features hackCamfrog is perfect keylogger for hacking Camfrog Video Chat passwords.

Features:
-Detect if Camfrog is running on processes
-Detect if Camfrog is installed
-Activate in Camfrog window
-Desktop Phishing
-Startup
-Encrypt Gmail informations
-Delivery logs when victim loggin on Camfrog
-Delete saved passwords and never remember
-Record keystrokes and get only the password
-Invisible mode

 

http://hackcamfrog.com/2011/12/first-version-launched/

 

 

host mail.cleverbridge.com[89.1.11.32] said: 550
5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.speedpartner.de
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: CE25223AFF4
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; marc@let.de
Arrival-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:29:58 +0200 (CEST)

domain:          cleverbridge.com
nserver:         ns1.cleverbridge.com
nserver:         ns2.cleverbridge.com
created:         2005-03-11
updated:         2011-03-15

owner-id:        MT254641
owner-org:       cleverbridge AG
owner-name:      Martin Trzaskalik
owner-address:   Brabanter Str. 2-4
owner-pcode:     50674
owner-city:      Cologne
owner-country:   DE
owner-phone:     +49 221 222450
owner-fax:       +49 221 2224519
owner-email:     noc@cleverbridge.com

admin-id:        MT254641
admin-org:       cleverbridge AG
admin-name:      Martin Trzaskalik
admin-address:   Brabanter Str. 2-4
admin-pcode:     50674
admin-city:      Cologne
admin-country:   DE
admin-phone:     +49 221 222450
admin-fax:       +49 221 2224519
admin-email:     noc@cleverbridge.com

tech-id:         PH380389
tech-org:        cleverbridge AG
tech-name:       Paul Herman
tech-address:    Brabanter Str. 2-4
tech-pcode:      50674
tech-city:       Cologne
tech-country:    DE
tech-phone:      +49 221 222450
tech-fax:        +49 221 2224519
tech-email:      noc@cleverbridge.com

billing-id:      PH380389
billing-org:     cleverbridge AG
billing-name:    Paul Herman
billing-address: Brabanter Str. 2-4
billing-pcode:   50674
billing-city:    Cologne
billing-country: DE
billing-phone:   +49 221 222450
billing-fax:     +49 221 2224519
billing-email:   noc@cleverbridge.com

 

Domain Name:FRANCOTEAM.ORG
Created On:31-Oct-2007 15:34:13 UTC
Last Updated On:01-Nov-2010 01:22:26 UTC
Expiration Date:31-Oct-2011 15:34:13 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:OnlineNIC Inc. (R64-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:ONLC-3056142-4
Registrant Name:Daanvan der Werf
Registrant Organization:Chat-Security.com
Registrant Street1:Mahlerstraat 40
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Bergen op Zoom
Registrant State/Province:Brabant
Registrant Postal Code:4614 AS
Registrant Country:NL
Registrant Phone:+31.614212965
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+31.614212965
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:DANNOZZZ@CAMFROG.NL
Admin ID:ONLC-3056142-1
Admin Name:Daanvan der Werf
Admin Organization:Chat-Security.com
Admin Street1:Mahlerstraat 40
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Bergen op Zoom
Admin State/Province:Brabant
Admin Postal Code:4614 AS
Admin Country:NL
Admin Phone:+31.614212965
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+31.614212965
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:DANNOZZZ@CAMFROG.NL
Tech ID:ONLC-3056142-2
Tech Name:Daanvan der Werf
Tech Organization:Chat-Security.com
Tech Street1:Mahlerstraat 40
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Bergen op Zoom
Tech State/Province:Brabant
Tech Postal Code:4614 AS
Tech Country:NL
Tech Phone:+31.614212965
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+31.614212965
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:DANNOZZZ@CAMFROG.NL
Name Server:NS1.KEURIGONLINE14.NL
Name Server:NS2.KEURIGONLINE14.NL
Name Server:

Domain Name:CAMFROG.INFO
Created On:02-Jun-2005 13:39:06 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Jan-2011 09:16:27 UTC
Expiration Date:02-Jun-2011 13:39:06 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R126-LRMS)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:2d36debdcc1d6317
Registrant Name:P.  Jansen
Registrant Organization:Camfrog Nederlands
Registrant Street1:Havixhorst 14
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Zuidlaren
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:9472RL
Registrant Country:NL
Registrant Phone:+31.164652321
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+31.164652321
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:woodstock@camfrog.nl
Admin ID:75a6c697e74ce352
Admin Name:P.  Jansen
Admin Organization:Camfrog Nederlands
Admin Street1:Havixhorst 14
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Zuidlaren
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code:9472RL
Admin Country:NL
Admin Phone:+31.164652321
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+31.164652321
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:woodstock@camfrog.nl
Billing ID:b025dd3aac8397b4
Billing Name:R.C.  Stoutenbeek
Billing Organization:Xel Media BV
Billing Street1:Postbus 14086
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:Utrecht
Billing State/Province:NL
Billing Postal Code:3508SC
Billing Country:NL
Billing Phone:+3.1302671710
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:+3.1302671710
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:postmaster@xel.nl
Tech ID:f1f65ebdcc1d6317
Tech Name:P.  Jansen
Tech Organization:Camfrog Nederlands
Tech Street1:Havixhorst 14
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Zuidlaren
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:9472RL
Tech Country:NL
Tech Phone:+31.164652321
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+31.164652321
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:woodstock@camfrog.nl
Name Server:NS1.CHAT-SECURITY.COM
Name Server:NS2.CHAT-SECURITY.COM

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Denial of Service on Camfrog
March 21, 2011, 8:58 am
Filed under: Camfrog, Decentralization, fraud, phishing, socialweb | Tags: , , , , , , ,

As some of you might mentioned ,since camfrog is aquired from paltalk ,
everything is going downhill.Camfrog is under permanent DDOS attack since a week.Read the article over here.

In this video you see how easy it is to compromise the camfrog registration server.
As you can see the IP adress is hardcoded into the camfrog.exe . !

 

I found this post here on camfrog-community, whitch explains the current situation and why things happen like they do in the past.:

You’re right on and YES the IP address or Domain that Camfrog hard-coded into their application is one of the main reasons why everytime Camfrog Dev Team try and re-code=(patch up) the old application it will just continue to break further and this leads to vulnerability and knowingly leaving the door open for outsiders to DDOS attack their Server. This can be preety nasty and ugly all depending on there layout and network structure that camfrog has in place. The ones to blame for the mess sadly but true would be Camfrogs Dev Team.

What will happen is this (issues will continue to arise for years to come since the actual code has never been changed re-done) except Camfrog has just made the application look nicier for the consumer but unfortunately I’m afraid to say this but they don’t seem to want to remove completly the old buggy code and replace the old buggy code with a newer updated code. Camfrog Dev Team seem to always be working backwards from day 1 and there only re-patching the old buggy file app and there basically stuck today playing a game of snakes and ladders. The most annoying types of behaviour is when Camfrog goes up and down up and down. Now some end users do not think there is any problem with Camfrog but think it has to do with there own internet. Hmmm unfortunately, all of you have had to live with this Camfrog behaviour since the very early days. You all got used to Camfrog going up and down like a monkey. As a Professional, it is NOT worth the money to sell to a customer a buggy App!

I have seen way too many Applications fail in no-time in my career because of the lack of true professional development experiance. Camfrog Dev Team lack this type of PRO DEV experiance in so many ways and to me personally as a Professional Dev, Camfrog should of hired real Professional Developers years ago when the Application was first built up. These are just basic facts that anyone can ask a True Professional Dev who holds a real degree in computer Science/Technology.

I don’t think any of Camfrogs Developers qualify as real DEV programmers in which is very sad to see and this leads to very poor programming skills as we can all see up to date. There is a huge differance in the programming world and I will compare it the same way so that most of you will have a much better picture, it’s like holding a drivers licence, If you can actually drive and know the updated regulations then there is no excuses and this is almost the same way in computer programming. Again, non-degree developers get paid less which takes more time and you will notice more constant failures down the road and this what Camfrog has been going threw since its early stages with the Camfrog application. A second benefit of having a professional DEV is so that it shows that you’re able to commit to a long-term project and succeed with ultimate results even after so many years. Still, I believe that Camfrog will fail within very little time because the CEO has decided he doesn’t care about the Development of his Application and just wants a free ride from his paying consumers which to me is unacceptable.

If I had the money to purchase Camfrog, I would first fire all the current so-called DEV Team and their sorry asses. First of all you never hard code IP’s into any code duh,duh,duh. What do Camfrog un-educated Devs think let’s all work backwards? Seriously your idiots and that stupid I mean honestly I would fire all of you and hire my own PROF DEV Team to fix your buggy crap.

Camfrogers are going to be waiting a very very long time before Camfrog becomes less buggy, like I said it matters in the real world to be a Real Dev Programmer because technology never remains the same its constantly upgrading and it seems though that Camfrogs Dev TEAM are working with 2 decades ago technology and this will greatly increase the odds of surviving in today’s world when you lack the Real Prof Dev degree!

Camfrog is not going re-write the code are you kidding me there going to keep the same shitty buggy code, because the cost of it now to repair the damage thats already done would be way to expensive amd time consuming for any Pro DEV to re-code from the ground upwards. The CEO of Camfrog is enjoying all of this downtime and he’s banking on his consumers money.

Until the customer reports add up and Camfrog System no longer works, You and I really don’t know what to expect as this has been going on for so many years with Camfrog and people have a right to keep talking about this, for the amount of money you all pay Camfrog for their service I would expect alot more uptime and backing from them. But their feedback system on their blog and thier forum is childish and very unprofessional from the Admin and not to mention he is very one sided. I will always support the protection of CamfrogCommunity.com members and if Camfrog doesn’t do the same the consumers will begin to leave.

Furthermore you guys should UNBAN a few countrys and read something about DATALOVE

Peace



Problems with camfrog
October 6, 2010, 3:59 pm
Filed under: Camfrog, Hacking | Tags: , , ,

A letter from a concerned roomowner…

Hi my camfrog nick is “_kiss_my_ass_” aka “Raverbaby69“, I have been on camfrog for 4 years now and have had a lot of fun on the programme over that time, although recently I have not been on camfrog so much due to all the camfrog drama and bullshit, I was a main owner of  X_NAUGHTY_L1TTiE_H0TT1ES_X until recently when I finally had enough of it and port_5canners little minions flooding other room’s servers all the time to make sure that X_NAUGHTY_L1TTiE_H0TT1ES_X was always top of the 18+ room list, because as long as hotties is number 1 room port_5canner can get male’s who want to be RED in the room to pay a hefty donation monthly to have RED in the room, and line port_5canners pocket’s, and believe me he makes a very good living out of the room at everybody else’s expence!!!! (FACT’s)

As for everything else on camfrog well anyone that has been on the programme for longer than a couple of years will know that camfrog has dramatically gone downhill, what with the constant room flood’s and rooms being offline for hours, hacker’s taking peoples usernames and pro-codes, and not to mention the fact that sometimes it takes hours for people to actually get on camfrog because thier central server is offline, or they are having problems with the so called updates which seem more of a down-grade lately!.

Also on the issue of camfrog’s admin and TOS they are about as usefull as an aids infected condom in a  whorehouse! there is no point emailing them with any issue’s you may have because for the most part you will be completely ignored! or if you are complaining about someone they will pass the email complaint on to the person you have complained about, this has been done to me personally so yes i do know what i am talking about!!!.
happy frogging people
peace
_kiss_my_ass_ aka Raverbaby69.

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T.A.Z. or a Cacophony of Communication
March 8, 2010, 4:22 am
Filed under: Camfrog | Tags: , ,

I don´t know if you might be curious where all the people went. I mean thousands of cybercitizens that you saw online til 2001, in hundrets of video chat rooms in all locations around the globe.Motivated from an article in the wired magazine , i´ve started my excursions, while the Internet Engeniering Task Force wants to avoid another NAT dilema in ipv6 ( NAT66 ) , the SAM working group creating an “multicast overlay” and the vmeet working group trys to re_invent the idea of remote partizipation, so i´ve found some so called “multi video chat communitys”, like paltalk ( 4 million users ), ivisit ( 4 million downloads ), jmeeting ( several thousends ) whitch worked on my macintosh computer and after a while i figured out, that camfrog is pretty popular with mostly over 100.000 user online.

It has dozens of multiligual ,international rooms with up to 2000 people at once !!, where a lot of kinkyness is involved. 😉

It was founded in 2003 , i believe and looks pretty similar to cuseeme , except that is has better audioquality , registration / profile webinterface and is strictly centralised server oriented.

So my first though was about the hirachical structure ,whitch is´nt very democratic or anarchistic like in the old days. There are several “levels” of memberships , beside of the FREE and PRO version. The FREE versions is very unsatisfactory at all ,you can open just one tiny little video at once, can´t locate people, can´t change font size , cant send files or pictures and private calles does not work ether.

In these so called “virtual rooms” you have about 5 – 10 % women and the rest is male, a crowd of folks begging , demanding, flodding the rooms with commands and more or lesssilly questions , whitch made me think , are these all real people or does most of them think its a videogame ? Mostly acts like they never saw a women in a bikini before ,whitch is true in some countrys, so its pretty embarrasing and a paradise for stalkers and pedofilers at all.
( i was told that people spend over 7000 $+ for PROcode – Server $199.95,hosting, bots ,whitch are only windows executables.!!
The “normal” USER if PRO or FREE is

BLACK = no rights, just have to be nice,

BLUE = is friend and will be recognised as a “regular” in a specific room, then there is
GREEN = means abillity to kick /punish /ban users and

RED = owner or god .whitch see IPadresses, see WHO are YOU watching !! and so on.


So whats the problem with it ?.

So the women are the “real human capital” of each room, any room owner wants to make “THE BEST ” and most popular room on there, so any of them make a women RED /Green immediately after they arrived first time and give them the chance to act wherever they want, the guys are mostly the dumb sheeps on here, they needs allways to behave and be friendly , or he will get kicked /punished or banned with ease.
As soon as a male roomowner for example ,perceived a “closer” relation between a guest ( his kermit features make him do this with ease ) and one of the women , he will try to find a way to make you leave or punish you because he is afraid that you take away a female , possibly to another room and will decrease the traffic and popularity of his room. So its really cyberpimping whats going on there.!!!
The most biggest fear of all is “vidcapping” , you would not believe what happend when a women see herself in another room , possibly with a hacked nick. Thats why most rooms disallow the chinese camcommunity 9158.com whitch allows videocapturing. So the ” show 3 fingers in cam if real rule ” , does have affect in some roomes , even if the most allowing lurkers and soone you have no controll who is watching anyway.
A simple button , witch let a user know that he /she gets captured , would take most of the fear away.

The virtual present idea is a money making machine aswell ,its mostly the only way to send a women a private message because mostly all of them are in “privacy mode” at all, the money will go directly to camfrog and the specific user whitch get the “present” has nothing from it, except that it appears for 30 DAYS on his profile and exipres afterwards!!!.

Solutions ?

So do we really need this ,?

I believe NO,but it could be fun too, if there is a simple way how everybody could “prevent” a specific user watching someone , it would not need this hirarchical structure at all. !!

In a “multicast enabled enviroment” everybody could “stream” audio and video at the same time and everybody could choose what he wants to see and listen too.

A the simple “close my video “feature and the “opensource idea” would decrease all the trouble punishing /banning , jealousy and greedyness at all!!.
It will not prevent all the abuse that i mentioned before , but we´re only humans, so we could give it a try.

So i am still yelling it out, even if nobody wants to hear it “multicast “,
“Decentralization” and “opensource” would be the key solution for making the last camcommunity on the net. !! and i am not talking about the security problems at all. CamFrog Password Disclosure Vulnerability

Camfrog Server installation and configuration on Linux

UPDATE :

Please sign the petition STOP NAUGHTY HOTTIES FROM CRASHIN OTHER ROOMS AS SOON AS THEY GET BIG!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/camfrog1/petition.html

references :
Camfrog is A Cacophony of Communication

Cacophony Society

The Temporary Autonomous Zone, Ontological Anarchy, Poetic Terrorism