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Germany Is Not Allowed To Talk In Hangout Air

Just heard about it:



How low can you go? Who is to blame for that.
The new big thing is going on without Germany…again. “Hangouts on Air” are not available in Germany.

F**k who? Germany or Google?

Not only that you can’t start a HoA from a Germany IP, no can’t even join one. It’s ridiculous. This situation is not acceptable. While some say the “Rundfunkmedienstaatsvertrag” (Interstate Broadcasting Agreement), a law in Germany, is too blame, I doubt it. This law would probably violate the constitution and get ousted by the BVerfG, if it really would reach for having a public hangout.

Even if this law would possibly be interfere, I would have demand Google to do it anyway and possibly giving the responsibility to their users. If the Germans can’t technically make actions against a malicious law, then the Internet is doomed once and for all. It’s a localnet then.
All Google needed to do imho, would have been stating there is no support in other countries, and users need to act according to local laws. So then everyone could go against that in court, if one gets sued by whoever want to sue a private person for having a hangout in public. I’m quite sure such a case would have no substance in court.
But this way, Germans can’t do anything. Is Germany still a free country? I mean Saudi Arabia and the UAE are allowed to have Hangouts on Air, and Germany not? Really?

Google, lawyers, politicians, I don’t know who to blame, but on and and many other audio streaming services, you can stream without limits even from Germany. So I would have thought Google had a bit more courage against non-free countries.  Germany apparently doesn’t have the same level of free speech than other countries in Europe have. Or is it just that Google didn’t launch it there? Like Google Music?


More articles in german:

Staatsvertrag verhindert Start von Google Hangouts On Air in Deutschland

Kein Hangouts on Air in Deutschland

YouTubes Livestreaming vor dem Aus?


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Germany’s Supreme Court Suspends Controversial Data Retention Law
March 2, 2010, 10:31 pm
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According to German law, Germany’s ISPs and phone services had to retain data about every citizen’s phone calls and emails for six months. Today, however, Germany’s Federal Constitution Court suspended this law and ordered that all the data stored to date must be deleted immediately. According to German news magazine Der Spiegel, the court said that it wasn’t sufficiently clear that the data storage was secure enough and what exactly the data would be used for.

Suspended, But Not Dead

It’s important to note that this isn’t necessarily the end of this law and that the court hasn’t ruled the law unconstitutional – the court only ruled that the implementation of the law was severely flawed. The German constitution, according to the judges, doesn’t disallow saving this information. The European Union issued guidelines for data retention in 2006 that requires all E.U. member states to implement national data retention laws. According to the guidelines, all ISPs and phone carriers have to keep a record of all their customers’ phone calls and emails on a rolling six-month basis. The actual implementation of these guidelines remains up to the E.U. members, however.

For now, the court has suspended the law until it has been amended and its scope has been limited by the German government. The court recommends that the data will be stored by the ISPs and phone companies, but argues that there shouldn’t be a central, government-controlled repository for this data. In addition, the court also recommends that the data should be encrypted.

For ISPs, keeping all these records is a significant burden and many ISPs and phone companies had hoped that the court would rule the law unconstitutional so that they wouldn’t have to store this data anymore.

The next stop for the opponents of this law is the E.U., though it remains to be seen if there is enough support among E.U. countries to fight these guidelines.

Written by Frederic Lardinois